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Bono, Karma & Grace

An extract from Influential Evangelist: U2'S Bono Makes Strong Statement In Support of Christ:

NEW YORK, USA, August 3 (CNA) - For years, the exact nature of the religious beliefs of Bono, lead singer songwriter of the band U2, have eluded fans and music experts.... The interview however, throws some new light onto the faith of a musician who grew up watching first hand the bloody battle between Catholics and Protestants which wracked northern Ireland for years. Bono grew up in Dublin with a Protestant mother and a Catholic father.

Perhaps in light of this, Assayas asks Bono if he thinks "appalling things" happen when people become religious. The singer responds by showing the deep personal relationship the Christian faith calls believers to with God, rather than the violent extremism the interviewer seems to be prodding to.

At one key point in the interview, Bono talks about the difference between Karma and Grace, a difference which he says, is a "mind blowing concept...that keeps me on my knees."

"At the center of all religions" Bono tells his skeptical interviewer, "is the idea of Karma. You know, what you put out comes back to you: an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth, or in physics-in physical laws-every action is met by an equal or an opposite one."

"And yet," he says, "along comes this idea called Grace to upend all that. . . . Love interrupts, if you like, the consequences of your actions, which in my case is very good news indeed, because I've done a lot of stupid stuff."


LAST WEEK, at a library fest, picked up a misleading book called "What God Wants" by Neale Donald Walsch - the same author of the pseudo-"Conversations with God".

This guy somehow likes to use the same or similar title as some religious books, and then write from an atheistic or pantheistic point of view, spouting some common beliefs of people who don't believe in a personal God or the will of an all-loving and all-powerful God, but rather only themselves and what they want.

In this new book, Walsch kept making self-congratulatory statements like, "The stuff in this book is so dangerous." Boy! Some danger! An example of his "dangerous" claims: people from major religions like Christianity, Islam and Judaism tend to be so extremist that they'll kill (maim, ostracise...) those who don't believe in the same truths that they believe. (!?) Just how many are like this? Consider this: what percentage out of billions of believers (whether Muslims or Christians) are extremists? The answer is likely to be 0.000...1 percent, right?

Wrote an online review at Amazon.com, entitled "Misleading Title, and Ordinary Tirade". Among my comments was a suggestion that Walsch should have called his book "What We Want" or at least "What God Does Not Want" instead.

One reviewer there, W. Pryce Thomas, summed it up really well:

"all i can say is WOW.....what a crapfest. i would give it negative points if i could. i could refute this book in my sleep as well as his conversation with god books. numerous contradictions, taking scripture out of context (and not even referencing it alot of the time). my boss let me borrow the book (he seems to be a big Walsch fan). its a fast read, but Walsch's ideas can be summed up in totality as regurgitated pantheism, panentheism, monism. he enjoys taking shots at the 3 big objective religions (as they say how things in the world ought to be) and doesnt include hinduism and buddhism because they are subjective. basically Walsch tells us that there are no consequences for what we do in this lifetime and that God's will is for us to do what we want. i almost died laughing when i read that what God really wants is "nothing". tell me this Neale.....if God really wanted nothing and doesnt care WHY WOULD HE BOTHER TALKING TO YOU in your alleged "conversations" with him?"

Finally, as one online friend S. put it, "That's the paradox of relativism isn't it...they can be fanatical and ABSOLUTE about ONE truth -- that there is no truth! This guy forgets that atheistic ideologies such as Nazism, Communism killed more people in the last century than any religious wars."


by tree#138680 on Wed Aug 10 05 1:00 am | profile

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